Porter von Ringgenberg BE
Verfasst: Fr 2. Mai 2025, 15:47
Hi,
I need some help reading a 1666 burial entry to make sure I am understanding everything and deciphered the names correctly.
K Ringgenberg 1 Taufrodel (1672-1724), Eherodel (1665-1724), Totenrodel (1665-1724), 1665-1724
https://www.query.sta.be.ch/Dateien/19/D96254.pdf
PDF image 88, page 168
Burial 20 March 1666
"d[en] 20. Mertzne ist Heini Porters
Wyb namens Elsi Wyß, [????]
obgenelter Barbli Wyßen
dochter, (ein Kindtbetterin zu
2. Kinden) sambt eineinder
selbige christlich zur erden
Bestattet worden."
Questions: (please make any transcription corrections)
1) is this referring to the Barbli Wyß who was mentioned in the previous entry (buried on 26 Feb)?
2) what is the relationship? It sounds like Elsi Wyß is the daughter of Barbli.
3) It sounds like Elis died while or after giving birth - to two or second child?
4) if transcribed correctly, what does "sambt eineinder selbige" mean? - mother and child(ren) buried together the same time? [Note, since the baptism entries do not start until 1672, I can't go check births around this time.]
I need some help reading a 1666 burial entry to make sure I am understanding everything and deciphered the names correctly.
K Ringgenberg 1 Taufrodel (1672-1724), Eherodel (1665-1724), Totenrodel (1665-1724), 1665-1724
https://www.query.sta.be.ch/Dateien/19/D96254.pdf
PDF image 88, page 168
Burial 20 March 1666
"d[en] 20. Mertzne ist Heini Porters
Wyb namens Elsi Wyß, [????]
obgenelter Barbli Wyßen
dochter, (ein Kindtbetterin zu
2. Kinden) sambt eineinder
selbige christlich zur erden
Bestattet worden."
Questions: (please make any transcription corrections)
1) is this referring to the Barbli Wyß who was mentioned in the previous entry (buried on 26 Feb)?
2) what is the relationship? It sounds like Elsi Wyß is the daughter of Barbli.
3) It sounds like Elis died while or after giving birth - to two or second child?
4) if transcribed correctly, what does "sambt eineinder selbige" mean? - mother and child(ren) buried together the same time? [Note, since the baptism entries do not start until 1672, I can't go check births around this time.]